Adding Waypoints for a team

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Henrik

08 Mar, 2017 08:56 PM

Hi Matt,

I've been looking for a way to add waypoints for a team - the option does not appear in the "Add New Object" drop-down. I found a work-around by adding a "Clue", which I can then right-click and "Convert to Waypoint".

Is there a more direct way to do this?

Thanks,
Henrik

  1. 1 Posted by bran.damage on 09 Mar, 2017 12:10 AM

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    Henrik, How do you use the Waypoint? I can create a Marker and convert it to a Waypoint, or, as you point out, I can also add a Clue and convert it to a Waypoint.
    I can also create a Marker called Waypoint1 and add it to a new Folder called "Team1-Waypoints". All of these items Export to the same format (wpt) in a GPX file when exporting to Garmin.
    (Matt may have a better answer - this is just my 2 cents - trying to help) John D.

  2. 2 Posted by Henrik on 09 Mar, 2017 02:07 AM

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    Thanks for your reply, John.

    We've just started to look at SAR Topo for managing SAR missions in the field, so we're still exploring the various features.

    Based on how we currently manage missions, we'll be setting waypoints during the planning phase for location-specific team instructions. Also, during the actual search phase we will set waypoints for "health & welfare" and other call-ins to IB.

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by matt on 10 Mar, 2017 05:41 AM

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    I'll have to think on this one.

    By design, "waypoints" and "tracks" were intended to help capture and organize data downloaded from team members' GPSs, providing a way to link them to the assignment. That's why, while you can do a conversion, there isn't a way to directly enter them. But there isn't another option for storing points and lines associated with the assignment.

    My initial recommendation would be to give up on tying welfare check locations to the assignment (do you actually collect UTMs on welfare checks?), create a folder for them, and manage them as markers.

    Can you give me some examples of "location-specific team instructions"?

  4. 4 Posted by Henrik on 10 Mar, 2017 06:02 PM

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    Thanks Matt,

    I see your point about keeping the Plan and the after-debrief, tracks and waypoints together.

    We do collect UTM location at every welfare call-in as a double-check and safety measure. We also get UTM for all other call-ins such as "we heard a reply to our sound sweep", "the trail is washed out in this area" etc.

    Due to cost and features, a good number of our members are switching from Garmin GPS units to Gaia GPS. Unfortunately, there is currently no good way to get tracks from Gaia to SAR Topo at incident base. So for some teams, we don't get their recorded tracks and waypoints until after the mission.

    In that situation, recording UTM for each call-in also helps the IC log what the team did in the field, even if tracks are not available immediately.

    I guess we can make a folder for each team and store the relevant markers in there. It might be a work-around if the "bulk ops" for markers and lines were to include the option to change the "type" from Marker to Waypoint as well as the option to assign these waypoints to an assignment. Just a thought.

  5. 5 Posted by Henrik on 10 Mar, 2017 06:05 PM

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    Forgot about the "location-specific team instructions":

    It would be something like "at this trail intersection search the 2 side-trails 100 meters out from the intersection looking for tracks and clues", or "from this vantage point, using binoculars, search the opposite river bank".

  6. 6 Posted by maier.b on 24 Apr, 2018 02:04 AM

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    Matt

    Your comment about taking UTMs when doing a welfare check is a cool idea. I don't know why I never thought about that before.

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