Missing ArcGIS and larger scale topos

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Tony Eng

08 Jan, 2017 05:03 PM

Please bring back ArcGIS and USGS 1:250,000 topos!! I like some of your new layer additions, but not at the expense of these. It is way too slow and difficult to navigate to less known areas without them, when zoomed out. CalTopo has become way less user friendly because of this!

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by matt on 08 Jan, 2017 05:42 PM

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    Have you seen the bottom section of http://caltopo.blogspot.com/2017/01/new-year-new-layers.html?

    I reached the point where I needed to trim some of the lesser-used layers from the dropdown. I will probably bring back the 1:250k maps if enough people ask (you're the 2nd), but my preferred approach is to have a wider selection of custom layers and have people add those to their account, while keeping the dropdown from getting too crowded for the standard, 90% use case.

    Curious though, what do the 1:250k maps give you that Google Terrain and MapBuilder Topo don't? Maybe it's also something that I can add in to MapBuilder.

  2. 2 Posted by Tony Eng on 08 Jan, 2017 07:08 PM

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    Hi Matt,Thanks for the quick reply. Google Terrain is nowhere near as good as 1:250K topos (though latter are dated). I believe the ArcGIS topo that was a main base layer only a couple of days ago was much better, as it would usually go from 1:250K/500K to 1:100K to 1:24K automatically while zooming, which of course is ideal for those of us that rely on real topo/maps to navigate from larger to smaller scale. Also some of the new base layers that have been added (USFS topo, newer NAIP) often have only limited extend, and as you are probably aware the USFS lands are rather limited in the US, particularly here in Nevada, with most federal lands being BLM, besides limited private, state, etc. domains.
    On another note, I tried signing up for an upgraded account quite some time ago to get more than page-size printing options (i.e. 11x17/tabloid) but I never succeeded, and not sure if my credit card was charged or not. Perhaps this is due to my not having a Google account (sorry, pretty old school I know!). If this is not you "department" perhaps you could forward this on, or tell me something stupid/simple to resolve.Tony
    PS  Really love your website and have no problem paying to help support and pay yours/others wages!

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  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by matt on 09 Jan, 2017 06:22 PM

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    I'm a 1-man shop so no department to forward it to. It looks like you signed up in December of 2015, but the card failed to renew last month - maybe you got a new number or a new expiration date for it.

    Did you try adding the 1:250k and ArcGIS layers as custom layers tied to your account, as described in the blog post I linked to? If so please let me know how that works for you.

  4. 4 Posted by Daniel on 21 May, 2017 10:24 PM

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    Hey there

    I just wanted to add 1:250k layer but i seems that there's no coverage for Alaska?

    The reason I want to add 1:250k is, that i try to get better print quality on big scale. With base layer USGS 7.5' I really get bad .pdf-quality with scale 1:100'000 or higher. I not necessarily need all the details of 7.5', but I still want to read elevation curves and names! Would be grateful to any kind of help.


  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by matt on 22 May, 2017 11:50 PM

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    Is the "TF Outdoors" usable for you? Sorry, for AK that's all I can suggest at the moment - I'm working on adding AK and Canada coverage for the MapBuilder topo layer, but it's slow progress. Some of the federal data I'm reliant on doesn't exist for AK yet.

  6. 6 Posted by Daniel Aepli on 23 May, 2017 10:01 PM

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    TF Outdoors is unfortunately not very usable - as it actually only provides
    elevation lines, without any additional information. By far the best maps
    are the USGS 7.5' and ArcGIS Topo, and they are really good. It's just that
    it's not really possible to print those with a scale larger than 1:80'000
    what doesn't allow me to catch a wider area in one map.

  7. kobe.pole closed this discussion on 18 Jun, 2018 10:33 PM.

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